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Haptalaon ([personal profile] haptalaon) wrote2019-11-21 02:11 pm
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Technical magic question (probably best solved by experimentation)

What is the difference between banishing a bad thing and summoning a good thing?

For example, banishing poverty vs summoning prosperity; banishing misfortune vs attracting luck.

Some initial thoughts:

1. How concrete the concept you're working with is. Attracting a lover is more "concrete" than banishing...loneliness? Unattractiveness? It's not immediately clear what the opposite of "a new lover" is, what the negative state you're trying to end is.

2. Whether the issue is a presence or a lack. If you're doing ok, then summoning wealth makes more sense than banishing-lack-of-wealth. However, if the situation is an active/"live" one, then a banish might make more sense. For example, if you're actively in an unsafe situation then banishing the unsafeness is more salient than just summoning safety.

3. Good operations could include both. Clean a thing out then fill it with something new.

4. How simple they are to accomplish as spells. This is related to point 1 of how conceptually simple the spell is. I'm currently designing a spell which could be done at midday to amplify a Solar thing, or dark-and-dawn to banish and renew a Solar thing. From a practical standpoint, a midday rite is less burdensome than a darktime one.

(But waking up at night to do a spell will make it feel more special and perhaps represent a greater sacrifice, both of which may empower it more)

5. This type of questioning process is maybe integral to spell design, like, hammering down what forces exactly are you're trying to work with.
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[personal profile] jenett 2019-11-21 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I tend to think of it like a cup (or whatever other container). Banishing helps you dump out what's already in the cup and clean it out, so you can fill it with the new thing you want. (as you say!)

So in your examples:

For love magic, you might banish habits that make it hard for you to meet new people, or banish old hurts that are getting in the way of making better connections.

For an unsafe situation, you might banish things that are getting the way of you getting out of there safely, and then call in and bless yourself with safety.
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[personal profile] ilthit 2019-11-22 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I always prefer to summon. In order to banish something you have to name it in a ritual (head)space, make it more concrete, and depending on how real or material that thing is, you may just have given it some of your mana and possibly made it stronger. This is also why I don't curse. Even just psychologically, it seems like a bad idea.

I also do this when I cleanse things. I call down the energy to fill a thing and let that energy cleanse it. It's a summoning, not a banishing.

But then I'm very haphazard about this sort of thing. I don't have the brain for varied ritual.