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5 February 2021
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5 February 2021 20:20So I'm studying banishing techniques, to try and find one which feels authentic to me (which I guess is another post, that I'd welcome your thoughts on) but I'm starting with the Key of Solomon and:
In the days and hours of Saturn thou canst
• perform experiments to summon the souls from Hades, but only of those who have died a natural death.
• Similarly on these days and hours thou canst operate to bring either good or bad fortune to buildings
• to have familiar spirits attend thee in sleep
• to cause good or ill success in business, possessions, goods, seeds, fruits, and similar things, in order to acquire learning;
• to bring destruction and to give death, and to sow hatred and discord.
So i still haven't decided how to bring planets into my system, but there's nothing about the traditional Western Esoteric use of the planets that I have a problem with, so maybe just "as is".
I'm really struck by this idea that Saturn (which is Stellar) has the power to bring good or bad fortune to buildings, because that feels so specifically us. By that, I mean. Hmmm.
The Stellar is associated with hauntings, often of an eerie or uncertain kind - not a woman in black who walks across the abbey floor but a definite sense of presences, of hauntings. Basically because this is an experience that moves me so profoundly.
Surely, the intention of the writer is to talk about - whether your house burns down or not - but I'd argue that an ill-fortuned building is just another way to say a haunted one, and that feels like it interrelates with Saturn's association with spiritwork and the dead (but not the spirits of people, the spirits of buildings) - and that works for me. Really nicely.
In the days and hours of Saturn thou canst
• perform experiments to summon the souls from Hades, but only of those who have died a natural death.
• Similarly on these days and hours thou canst operate to bring either good or bad fortune to buildings
• to have familiar spirits attend thee in sleep
• to cause good or ill success in business, possessions, goods, seeds, fruits, and similar things, in order to acquire learning;
• to bring destruction and to give death, and to sow hatred and discord.
So i still haven't decided how to bring planets into my system, but there's nothing about the traditional Western Esoteric use of the planets that I have a problem with, so maybe just "as is".
I'm really struck by this idea that Saturn (which is Stellar) has the power to bring good or bad fortune to buildings, because that feels so specifically us. By that, I mean. Hmmm.
The Stellar is associated with hauntings, often of an eerie or uncertain kind - not a woman in black who walks across the abbey floor but a definite sense of presences, of hauntings. Basically because this is an experience that moves me so profoundly.
Surely, the intention of the writer is to talk about - whether your house burns down or not - but I'd argue that an ill-fortuned building is just another way to say a haunted one, and that feels like it interrelates with Saturn's association with spiritwork and the dead (but not the spirits of people, the spirits of buildings) - and that works for me. Really nicely.
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5 February 2021 22:01But its hard to get your head around magic when you don't really want anything. I don't want to banish in my space so as not to disrupt the other things that are there, and I don't want to summon or invoke anything for fear of bothering them, and I don't want to ask for things or spell for things, but to be so small as to vanish and to turn into a sound wave and be nothing. I suppose I want the pleasure of ritual for its own sake, which I very much enjoy.
Another key problem I have is that my husband has, not unreasonably, set some Rules about summoning, but I'm finding them difficult as basically my attraction is to weird things. Things you shouldn't summon. But that's where my attraction is, and I keep getting stuck in this circle of - why is this what you want - is this a call, or is this your ego saying something - how dangerous would this be, really - does this fit inside of the rules - and what would be the purpose of invoking something characteristically vengeful or corrupt anyway, like, what possible purpose could there be for that? Maybe that's what divination is for, idk.
Another key problem I have is that my husband has, not unreasonably, set some Rules about summoning, but I'm finding them difficult as basically my attraction is to weird things. Things you shouldn't summon. But that's where my attraction is, and I keep getting stuck in this circle of - why is this what you want - is this a call, or is this your ego saying something - how dangerous would this be, really - does this fit inside of the rules - and what would be the purpose of invoking something characteristically vengeful or corrupt anyway, like, what possible purpose could there be for that? Maybe that's what divination is for, idk.